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He s done it again.
 
British evolutionary biologist, atheist and provocateur Richard Dawkins has ignited another firestorm on Twitter after expressing his views about what a woman should do if told her fetus has Down syndrome. 
 
It was only a few weeks ago that The God Delusion author sparked a savage backlash for tweeting Date rape is bad. Stranger rape at knifepoint is worse, while illustrating an argument about logical reasoning.   
 
This latest cyber slanging match started when Dawkins posted a link to a story about the plight of women in Ireland where abortion is largely illegal, even in the case of rape, incest or fetal deformity.
 
Ireland is a civilised country except in this 1 area:  You d think the Roman Church would have lost all influence.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
It provoked a strong reaction from Twitter users and Dawkins responded in his characteristically insensitive style. 
 
994 human beings with Down s Syndrome deliberately killed before birth in England and Wales in 2012. Is that civilised?
 
Aidan McCourt (@AidanMcCourt)
 
Yes, it is very civilised. These are fetuses, diagnosed before they have human feelings.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
Then a woman using the Twitter handle @InYourFaceNYer joined the conversation, saying she would have a real ethical dilemma if she found out her baby had Down syndrome.
 
  I honestly don t know what I would do if I were pregnant with a kid with Down Syndrome. Real ethical dilemma.
 
InYourFaceNewYorker (@InYourFaceNYer)
 
Dawkins clearly would have no such <a href=http://architectscanterbury.co.uk/page.php?sale=Purses-Kate-Spade>Kate Spade Handbags</a>  qualms and told her what she should do.&nbsp;
 
The woman should abort it and try again, Dawkins tweeted back.&nbsp;He went even further, saying it would be immoral for a woman to carry on with a pregnancy under such circumstances.
 
Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
Not surprisingly, Dawkins response triggered a barrage of angry tweets.
 
You re not a philosopher, you re not moral, and your opinion is based on prejudice and ignorance.
 
Ms Bob McBoint (@BobMcBoint)
 
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  My child *might* get leukemia. Should I abort them now to avoid the risk?
 
Stephani (@whirlypearly)
 
True to form, the thick-skinned Dawkins went on the defensive.&nbsp;
 
In point of fact, a majority of Down Syndrome fetuses in Europe and USA are aborted. What I recommended is not outlandish but the norm.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
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Woman said she wouldn t know whether to abort. I told her what I would do why. I OBVIOUSLY wouldn t TELL a woman what to do. Up to her.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
If <a href=http://www.cicviseu.net/page.php?sale=Tory-Burch-Beach-Bag>Tory Burch Beach Bag</a>  I were a woman with a DS fetus I personally would abort. So do most women in fact. If you wouldn t, good luck to you, it s your decision,
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
But Dawkins found some support among followers who either share his views or love his no-holds-barred approach.
 
What s the big deal ? Richard is just giving his opinion.
 
Michael Deutrom (@MuddyYid)
 
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why are people offended by this?
 
i miss Wilfred (@Bre2286)
 
Not that upsetting some of his one million followers on Twitter&nbsp;bothers Dawkins one little bit. He later issued an apology of sorts on&nbsp;his  for letting slip the dogs of Twitterwar, but&nbsp;didn t retreat from his views, not by an inch.&nbsp;
 
Noooo, Dawkins simply elaborated his argument that had been restricted by the 140-character limit on Twitter. &nbsp;
 
what I was saying simply follows logically from the ordinary pro-choice stance that most us, I presume, espouse. My phraseology may have been tactlessly vulnerable to misunderstanding, but I can t help feeling that at least half the problem lies in a wanton eagerness to misunderstand.
 
Dawkins is no stranger to controversy. In fact, as his Twitter account shows, he actively courts it.
 
Last month he found himself in the middle of a social media uproar after he differentiated between date rape and stranger rape and mild pedophilia and violent pedophilia. &nbsp;
 
The conversation started with this post about the <a href=http://architectscanterbury.co.uk/page.php?sale=Kate-Spade-Pen-Necklace>Kate Spade Pen Necklace</a>  Palestine-Israel conflict and evolved into a brain-twisting discussion about logical reasoning.
 
It is reasonable to deplore both the original founding of the Jewish State of Israel aspirations now to destroy it
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
To illustrate his point, Dawkins used the aforementioned crimes of rape and pedophilia.&nbsp;
 
Date rape is bad. Stranger rape at knifepoint is worse. If you think that s an endorsement of date rape, go away and learn how to think.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
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Mild pedophilia is bad. Violent pedophilia is worse. If you think that s an endorsement of mild pedophilia, go away and learn how to think.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
Naturally, this upset many social media users, particularly women. &nbsp;
 
I m glad  is here to tell us objectively comparatively how bad our rapes were. Go away and learn compassion.
 
Sabine (public) (@ThatSabineGirl)
 
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there are no varying degrees separating any of the evil things you re trying to quantify. Evil is evil...stop it.
 
Ned Da Wino (@8bitanimal)
 
But it s the kind of thing we ve come to expect from a man who has turned insulting entire segments of the population into something of a sport.
 
Remember this tweet about Muslims?
 
All the world s Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though.
 
Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
 
Oh, and the time he encouraged his followers to mock and ridicule religious people?
 
  
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